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Length and Accuracy of Gluten Challenge after GF?
« on: June 01, 2010, 07:59:19 PM »
I've been relatively (not 110%) GF on and off (usually about 2-10 months) for nearly a decade.  I did not realize that it was Gluten that was causing the problems until recently.  I just did Atkins diet, so I did not eat wheat, rye, barley or any other gluten foods frequently during those times.

In the last few years I developed severe gut pains that would wake me up in the middle of the night.  I would wake up and want to scream but the pain was so bad I could not move or make a sound.... just curl up in a ball with my mouth hanging open.  I had psychiatric, weight, and energy problems for YEARS prior to the pain, but never attributed anything to it.  Well, that pain progressed through the last 4-5 years to the point where my bowel function is such where i strained and strained, KNOWING I had to go, and also NEVER being able to have a solid movement when I did.  It was like constipation that, when it finally DID come out, LOOKED like diarrhea.  I have not produced solid movements in years.  It was also coming out blackish-grey, not good and my stomach burned and felt like it was "fermenting" and bubbling up after I ate.  When I ate bread or wheat product my gut would feel like it was about to explode with gassy bloat about 5 or 6 hours later.  It felt like I would have the runs but nothing would come out except gas.   I switched to rye, and was puzzled to no end when the pain still occurred (now I know why). 

I finally could not handle the arthritis, the "ulcer" (doctor had said that's what it *might* be), and the fatigue and moodiness.  I went on the blood type/genotype diet.  I still had no idea what celiac disease or, really, even gluten was.  My issues mostly cleared up within a week.  I stayed on it from October '09 to April '10 with very few cheats  and was SUPER strict with no gluten. 

Well, I still had problems so complained to my doctor  again.  Went through all the symptoms and complained about that dang wheat and rye and begged her to do something.  She then suggested celiac and referred me to a gastro.  Well. That day back in early April 2 months ago, I came home and looked it up.  I then realized I would need to do a gluten challenge since I had been gluten free (mostly) for nearly 6 months.  I went out within an hour and bought bread, flour, vital wheat gluten... etc.  And have been eating all sorts of stuff (anywhere from 4 servings of bread a day to .25 lb (110g)  day of pure seitan.  Usually, though, I would have about 4-6 bread slice per day on average unless I could stomach the stuff (kind of gross).  I am not feeling so hot.  The pain is not as bad as it was prior, although the psych symptoms are back nearly full force).  Lethargy is back too and significant digestive complaint (just not horrendously).

Tomorrow I see the gastroenterologist for a consultation.  I want to ask him to schedule me for the tests (which my General Practicing Doc wants)  in a month.  This would give me 3 months on the diet.

Will this be enough?  With the time (3 months at that point)  eating anywhere from 4 slices bread per day to 110g of PURE gluten?  How about if I mix bran with it?  would the bran scratch up my gut easier so that the gluten could penetrate properly, or would I end up "wasting" the gluten before it did it's thing?

I am very concerned.  I really need an answer to the last 17 years of misery (with the last 5 or so being the worst).  Thanks

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Re: Length and Accuracy of Gluten Challenge after GF?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 08:29:25 PM »
Tomorrow I see the gastroenterologist for a consultation.  I want to ask him to schedule me for the tests (which my General Practicing Doc wants)  in a month.  This would give me 3 months on the diet.

Will this be enough? 

I'm not a doctor, I'm a web designer, but from what I have read in the last 12 years I feel almost certain that the suffering you have endured over the last 3 months will have been enough for you to get a definitive diagnosis.

Also, as I was reading your message it reminded me of many of my own symptoms before I was diagnosed back in the 1990s.  The odd colored stools, gurgling after a meal, and extreme gas in particular reminded me of my own symptoms.

I predict you will be feeling much, much better in 6 months.

One thing though, if you do find out that you have celiac disease you should know that cheating on the diet is a very, very bad idea. Each time a person with celiac disease falls off the wagon and eats gluten a very destructive autoimmune reaction occurs and if this happens on a regular basis the chances of developing certain forms of cancer in the stomach increase dramatically.  Strict adherence to the gluten free diet is an absolute medical necessity for people with celiac disease.

Fortunately almost everyone with celiac disease get much better once they go on the GF diet.

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Re: Length and Accuracy of Gluten Challenge after GF?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 03:14:23 PM »
Thanks, sensible celiac

I'd been lurking in the forum but then couldn't stand it any longer and decided to register and post.  :-D

I went in today and the GI doc was better than I had thought.  He did agree with the gluten needing to be consumed for a significant length of time although he tried to get me to get the blood work today (despite having told him that I REALLY would prefer waiting ONE more month).  He did acknowledge that some people's blood work comes back normal but the biopsy comes back messed up and vice versa.  He wanted to do an endo biopsy regardless of the blood work and the endoscopy would be scheduled in about a month.  I pointed out why not wait for the blood work and have it taken at the endoscopy?  He could not argue with that, since he would do the endo anyway  :roll:

They want to check with colonoscopy the same day, so I guess it'll be a real joy  :|

They are doing it at the end of July (only time that they could schedule with my schedule, too).
Gives me almost four months total to really go at it  :wink: 

I hope that either the blood or the biopsy can pick it up.  My gut does not feel NEARLY as bad as it did when the symptoms first happened years ago, so I must have already healed significantly.  I never thought I'd be attempting to DELIBERATELY injure myself (so to speak), but I hope it's really enough time to relapse to the extent needed to get diagnosed.