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Re: Formal diagnosis? Just feel better? How do you know?
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2008, 07:05:21 PM »
Have you been diagnosed?  Did you suffer a long time before your diagnosis?
Yes, I was diagnosed at the end of June.  No, I did not suffer for long before my diagnosis (see below).

What symptoms did you have?
I actually thought I had an ulcer.  In April, my stomach very suddenly started hurting.  One Sunday morning I just felt nauseous and sick to my stomach, out of the blue, for no apparent reason.  I am not one to have stomach issues (or so I thought....!).  I ignored it for a week but it kept hurting.  It hurt more after I ate, and I just felt lousy in general.  So I did some research and decided to take Prilosec OTC for 14 days.  The pain went away within a couple of days on the Prilosec, so I figured it was probably excess acid in my stomach.  After 14 days on the Prilosec, the pain came back within a day after being off the meds.  I called my doc and he suggested an endoscopy to look for an ulcer, and in the meantime continue taking the Prilosec.  I finally got an appointment with a gastroenterologist, and an endoscopy scheduled for mid-June.  At the time of my office visit, the GI doc thought I had GERD or heartburn (???) which in my mind did not coincide with my symptoms, as it did not feel like heartburn to me AT ALL.  By the time of my endoscopy, I had been off the Prilosec for a week and wasn't having any pain whatsoever, so I figured they wouldn't see anything of interest in there.  On my report, he wrote "Unremarkable.  I took biopsies."  Two weeks later I went in for my follow-up visit and was blown away by the diagnosis of Celiac!  I asked them to take blood to run antibody tests (because honestly I did not believe the diagnosis at that point).  Those were positive, too.

What methods were used to test? Blood tests? Endoscopy?
Endoscopy - positive biopsy: pathology report stated moderate flattening of the villi, pictures showed scalloped mucosa
Blood test - positive anti-TTG IgA, positive anti-EMA

So 4 days after my diagnosis I went on vacation (already planned) to Europe and ate anything and everything I wanted.  Came back home, did a bunch of research, cleaned out my kitchen (not so fun), got new kitchen stuff (that was actually quite fun), and started GF diet on August 1.  So far so good, but then again, I wasn't having symptoms anyway.  I have no idea what to expect in the future, but I will absolutely stick with GF because I don't want to get sick.

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« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2008, 11:01:27 AM »
Just diagnosed three weeks ago at the age of 41. (Female). Sick since 1990 but, mildly sick as a child, Dr  couldn't figure out why I had abdominal pain frequently.
Symptoms:
Mostly loose stools for many adult years, some nausea and vomiting, but, ONLY after going to restaurants,-sometimes no vomiting for years. Severe bouts of diarrhea after going to parties, or traveling and staying in hotels. Thought it was stress and anxiety, or occasional food poisoning. Saw many psychologists for anxiety issues and depression, and mentioned vomiting after eating to at least two of them. Saw GP's and OBGYN regularly, for irregular periods, borderline anemia, and in the past few years saw GP's for diarrhea and anxiety. Was given zoloft, adavan, buspar, and other meds. Never lost any weight in twenty years, but, I am quite underweight. Also, saw a gastrointerologist in 1991 for severe diarrhea, blood loss,  and weakness. I was told there was nothing wrong with me. Went to a gastrointerologist a few weeks ago for weight loss due to the stress of moving out of state, told her of all of my chronic lifelong issues, and she barely caught celiac in the biopsy. She was unsure and told me to keep eating regular diet for another week until blood test came back, which were positive.
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Re: Formal diagnosis? Just feel better? How do you know?
« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2008, 10:58:38 PM »
Wow, what an incredible journey.  I hope you'll be feeling better soon.

Welcome to the board!
:)  Gluten-Free since January 5, 2002  :)

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Re: Formal diagnosis? Just feel better? How do you know?
« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2009, 07:58:19 PM »
My daughter (16) has been placed on a gluten free diet to see how she responds.  She hasn't been diagnosed officially yet, the biopsy indicated possible celiac disease, lack of absorption of nutrients.  However, the blood tests were negative.  The ped GI put her on a GF diet 1 1/2 months ago, we are having mixed results.  He said to stay on for 2 more months and add high fiber and come back.  She is determined that this isn't what is wrong because it hasn't "cured" her.  I see some positive results, but the major problems still exist.  She has been very good on the diet, if she is still getting gluten, I'm not sure where.  I am at my wits end, I want to know what is wrong and be able to get relief. 
Our story:  She was a very healthy baby, but couldn't hold down anything well.  She spit up almost everything she had in a bottle (breast milk and formula).  We couldn't find a formula that worked well, the best were soy formulas.  I assumed she was lactose intolerant.  She has never done well with milk products, but the doctor said biopsy results say she isn't lactose intolerant.  Additionally as a baby her bowel movements were "toxic".  They were very loose and they "burned" her bottom.  If her diaper wasn't changed immediately she had the worst diaper rash you've ever seen and it appeared that acid had been poured on her bottom, it would sometimes bleed.  I had to use special diaper rash ointments, the regular stuff didn't work.  Other than that she progressed in weight and height as a normal child, she was slightly smaller than her 2 older sisters.  She was very healthy, until 3rd grade.  In 3rd grade she started having problems, she started gaining weight, started having more health problems, and started having problems with depression.  Since that time she's been seeing a therapist and now a psychiatrist for depression.  When she was 12 the major problems began, she started having blood in her stools.  At the same time she also had a small cyst on her ovary which caused a lot of pain.  The GI doc looked for the whole year of 2006 to find the source of the blood, he never could.  He did all kinds of tests, including a colonoscopy and endoscopy, nuclear tests, stool studies, etc.  His next plan of attack was the video pill.  However, suddenly in November of 2006 she seemed to get better, the blood disappeared, so we didn't pursue it any further.  At this time she also started having severe headaches (migraines), severe stomach aches and fatigue and she was gaining weight.  Last year (2008) she started having problems again.  In the spring she started having stomach pains, then the bleeding started in April or May.  Then in late May she started having menstrual bleeding that wouldn't stop until they finally found a birth control pill strong enough to stop it in August. We went back to the GI doc, he did a CAT scan and found nothing and said if she got worse to call him.  This continued until March of 2009 (same problems, headaches, fatigue, weight gain in large amounts at a time, stomach pain, bowel problems, bleeding), when she had an episode of incapacitating pain and a lot more blood and non-stop vomiting.  We went back, he did the colonoscopy & endoscopy with biopsy.  He also did another CAT scan with nothing showing up.  This time he said the biopsy showed that she wasn't absorbing nutrients and he took the blood tests to confirm celiac (but they were negative).  He put her on GF diet anyway. 
I have read up and most every symptom she has goes with CD.  On the GF diet she's lost about 20 pounds, she has less fatigue, she doesn't pass gas near as much as before and it doesn't really smell bad as it had before, the vomiting stopped (the constant vomiting had stopped after seeing the doc in March, but she continued to vomit and have nausea a few times a week).  She still has the headaches, she has less stomach pain (hardly any), but she still has the blood in the stool.  When we went back after 1 month he said to continue the GF, but with high fiber to try to get the bleeding under control.  He said if it still continues he's going to probably go ahead with the video pill.  Could it still be celiac even though we haven't had great success with the diet?  Everything I've read seems to indicate that most people have wonderful response within a short period of time after starting the diet.  I had hoped this would be the case.  The blood really worries me, it isn't a small amount, it isn't huge, but this has been going on for quite some time.  She became very anemic for awhile, I think she's ok now.  I really thought it was celiac, it would explain so much.  Our family seems to have a lot of digestive problems, we have notoriously bad gas that is very foul, which seems to be a major symptom.  My father had to have part of his colon removed a couple of years ago, not from cancer, but other colon problems.  I have a cousin on my mother's side that has Chron's.  I have had digestive problems all my life.  My daughter and I both have problems with GERD.  I also read that depression has been linked to CD, our family has problems with that also.  My daughter has 4 specialists and a family doctor and all of the specialists have her on medications, I would really like to find the cause of everything and get her off of some of the meds.  Do you think I need to clean out the kitchen and use all new cookware and cutting boards, etc. as I've seen mentioned?  That seems extreme, but if that is maybe what is causing my daughter to not have complete recovery, then I'll do whatever it takes.  Any suggestions or insight would be greatly appreciated!


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Re: Formal diagnosis? Just feel better? How do you know?
« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2009, 08:58:29 PM »
Could it still be celiac even though we haven't had great success with the diet?  Everything I've read seems to indicate that most people have wonderful response within a short period of time after starting the diet.

Hi Georgia Mom,

I'm glad your daughter has such a motivated Mom taking care of her, it seems you really have done the research to understand celiac disease.

I've been GF over ten years now and involved in countless email lists, forums, and such.  It is true that many people do benefit quickly from the GF diet, but there are also those who take 6 months or more to really start feeling better.  It seems to me that there is a correlation between how severe symptoms have been and how long it takes for the GF diet to produce relief.  Your daughter has certainly had it very rough, and at her age going GF must be especially difficult as she no doubt spends a lot of time away from home and eating in various situations where she wants not to stand out.

If she actually does have celiac disease it's important that she understand she must not eat even a tiny bit of gluten, sometimes teenagers feel nothing can hurt them, so she may be tempted in situations you or I would never experience.

It is certain that following a GF diet will not harm her in any way except the obvious inconvenience.  So continuing the diet even though it seems futile now won't actually harm hurt.  I'd want to encourage her to give it a full 6 months before reaching a conclusion about whether or not the diet is helping.

It is not terribly unusual for blood tests to be negative when a person does have celiac disease, so the fact that her tests were inconclusive actually does not establish anything.

Keep in mind that I'm just some old guy with lots of websites.  I'm not a medical professional, so if your doctors say anything that criticizes what I've said you should listen to them.

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Re: Formal diagnosis? Just feel better? How do you know?
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2009, 07:41:20 PM »
I do not have a formal diagnosis yet.  I have been to three doctors recently trying to get to the cause of my problems.  I have had some symptoms for many years, but things got much worse after having the flu and pneumonia 2 yrs ago.  I never recovered.  I have had drug and food allergies for years, and at that time they became much worse.  I went to a mainstream/alternative doctor because I could not tolerate any antibiotics and could not get over the pneumonia, then I could not get over the symptoms.  
chronic diarrhea
weight loss
bloating, cramps
restless leg (was terrible)
muscle spasms
dermatitis
exhaustion
no energy
anxiety
intense itching
joint & back pain
inflammation
vit D, B12, iron defiency
low cortisol
thyroid disease

The deficiencies became so bad, that I could barely function or stand up straight.  At the same time I have been a caretaker for my husband who is disabled, so this has been a nightmare. Thanks to my research on line over the past few weeks, I am finally finding some answers.  I tried going gluten free for just 5 days, and experienced much relief.  I then went back to the gluten and experienced even more sensitivity.  I saw a new internist just this week, and had the blood test.  I am waiting for an appt with the gastroenterologist.  The internist felt that I was at high risk for celiac, and after looking at the dermatitis, he recognized it as dermatitis herpetiformis.

I will update you when I know more.

Annie

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« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2009, 08:15:42 AM »
The internist felt that I was at high risk for celiac, and after looking at the dermatitis, he recognized it as dermatitis herpetiformis.

This was the bingo moment for me while reading your message.  Everything else was perfectly consistent with the possibility that you might have celiac disease, but a diagnosis of Dermatitis Herpetiformis is essentially confirmation of celiac disease.  As far as I know it is never found in people who do not have CD.

I'm glad you have found the source of so much of your suffering.  I hope the GF diet helps you.

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« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2009, 07:54:24 PM »
Thanks for your reply, this site is very helpful.

Annie

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« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2009, 11:23:03 PM »
Hi everyone,

Well, I got my diagnosis today.  My blood test was positive.  I am not surprised, I keep getting more and more symptoms.  Now I can go Gluten Free.  I really wanted the confirmation, because I have 4 grown sons, 2 of whom are displaying symptoms.  The doctor said I was right on.  Apparently the onset was at age 27 when I woke up one day with insane itching and no other symptoms.  Now I am waiting for my appt with the GI doctor.

I could never have accomplished this diagnosis without this forum.  Many thanks.

Annie

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« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2009, 06:31:44 AM »
Hi everyone,

Well, I got my diagnosis today.  My blood test was positive.  I am not surprised, I keep getting more and more symptoms.  Now I can go Gluten Free.  I really wanted the confirmation, because I have 4 grown sons, 2 of whom are displaying symptoms.  The doctor said I was right on.  Apparently the onset was at age 27 when I woke up one day with insane itching and no other symptoms.  Now I am waiting for my appt with the GI doctor.

I could never have accomplished this diagnosis without this forum.  Many thanks.

Annie


Annie, I'm so glad you are on your way to recovering from the horrible effects you've suffered.  Based on what I've read you may find that the DH takes a long time to clear compared to your digestive symptoms.

I would not have been surprised if your doctor chose to skip the small intestinal biopsy based on your DH and blood antigen results, in any case you do have definitive information now.

And thank you very much for your kind words about this forum, it's been here over 5 years now and at times I wonder if it is doing anyone any good at all because I get so very little feedback of any kind.

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« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2010, 09:56:29 PM »
"And thank you very much for your kind words about this forum, it's been here over 5 years now and at times I wonder if it is doing anyone any good at all because I get so very little feedback of any kind."

Steve,

I'm new to this forum, but I have spent the entire day reading here.  I'm convinced all my gastric issues are celiac related.  I was blood tested last year but was negative.  Monday I had a followup endoscopy for acid reflux and was told I have gastritis (the only symptom was severe backache which I did not associate to my stomach).  I have suffered the past 4-5 years with increasing bouts of diahrea / constipation, body pains, restless legs, insomnia.... etc etc.  All my symptoms point to celiac.

My GI doc did a biopsy on Monday, but I'm not sure if it was in the small intestine.  I will find out in three weeks what she found.  I'm back on Zantac and today I started a GF diet and plan to continue to test my theory.  I think going gluten free is a wise choice for anyone.  Processed foods are so bad for us and we, as a society, eat entirely too much wheat.

Please know, Steve, that your forum is greatly appreciated and I never would have linked my symptoms to CD had I not read this discussion.  Even if it turns out I'm not CD, I think it's a much healthier way to live.

Thank you!

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« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2010, 01:19:28 PM »
I'm 68 years old and suspected I might be celiac at around 64.  Since then I've eschewed gluten in ever more specific terms.  Tests have not confirmed this view, however, ingesting anything associated with wheat and gluten brings on pains, bloating, and gas. 

I recognize I have damaged the villi but the comfort I get now suggests these have grown back well.  Nevertheless, even though I've also cut out dairy and refined sugar I'm still experiencing some bowel problems that my doctor describes as IBS.

My feeling is that once the villi have completely recovered I'll be able to introduce sugars and dairy back in moderation.  Does anyone have a history like mine, where diagnosis occured late in life?

Many thanks,

John

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« Reply #57 on: July 07, 2010, 07:00:06 AM »
Have you been diagnosed? Did you suffer a long time before your diagnosis? What symptoms did you have?

As an infant, I had projectile vomiting, diarrhea, and problems digesting cows milk in baby formula. I was a very fussy baby! Who knows what was in baby formulas in 1942?  The ped-specialist told my Mom she wasn't holding me right to feed me.  Finally, they figured out I could tolerate fresh goats milk.

I was sickly all my life, underweight, sometimes anemic, with episodic D + C, with frequent tummy aches, bloating, nausea, poor appetite, nasal allergies + mild asthma, frequent bouts of mouth ulcers, and unknown skin rashes.  Eventually, I started having peripheral nerve problems in my 20's [had carpel tunnel surgery on both hands, later surgery on a thumb, and something that was diagnosed as either partial lobe seizures or migraine without headache with occipital calcifications.] I was moody, cranky and had difficulty learning to read - probably just having "brain fog".

I visited numerous doctors over the years, including 3 gastroenterologists - not one of them ever mentioned Celiac Disease as a possibility - the last gastro finally dx'd it as IBS, saying there was no cure and I would just have to learn to live with it.   He sent me back to my family doctor, who, for years, gave me an on-going prescription for Lomotal with Phenobarbitol to take dring an "episode".

Five years ago, at 62 yr. old, after an emergency room visit with my intestines almost swollen shut and the surgeon threatening to take out part of my small intestine [which I absolutely declined!], I decided that I had to take things into my own hands.  An internet research turned up Celiac Disease.  I immediately went on a gluten free diet [I had been dairy free for over 30 years already] and ALL my gastro-intestinal symptoms vanished...the neurological problems have lessened dramatically as well.

My new family doctor agrees, it is probably Celiac Disease.  I refuse to go back on the diet just so some yo-yo gastro-doctor can say, "yes, you have it!"  The diet has made such a dramatic difference, that to me there is no doubt about it  So, I will remain gluten and dairy free for the rest of my life.  By the way... I have a normal weight for the first time in my life since going gluten free.


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« Reply #58 on: December 03, 2010, 06:52:17 PM »
I've only been diagnosed for about a month, but what triggered the suspicion for my doctor was my inability to absorb certain vitamins & minerals, particularly iron and vitamin D. He then ran a couple of specific blood tests, which came up abnormal.

 

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